peeves - 'have done' and 'fey'
May. 24th, 2004 01:55 pmPeeve #1 --
"Have you ever gone fishing?" Viggo asked.
"I have done," Orli answered.
DONE is never used in this way in English. I am totally blown the heck away by all of you who speak and write in English when it's not your native tongue. This, however, is totally incorrect. I have never in my life read or heard this construction except in fanfiction.
If it's British, I will happily (oh, -so- happily *g*) take my 40 lashes as punishment. But I have never heard it and it's Wrong Wrong Wrong for American characters. (Please, feel free to argue with me... Maybe they say it in rural Alabama.)
Peeve #2 --
"He stood there in his Legolas costume, looking fey and inhumanly beautiful."
"He was in a fey mood."
"fey" does NOT mean dark or mysterious.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines "fey" as:
1. Fated to die, doomed to death; also, at the point of death; dying. And further notes that this use is archaic, but still in use in Scotland.
2. Leading to or presaging death; deadly, fatal. Obsolete.
3. Accursed, unfortunate, unlucky. Obsolete.
4. Feeble, timid; sickly, weak. Obsolete.
5. Disordered in mind like one about to die; possessing or displaying magical, fairylike, or unearthly qualities. Now freq. used ironically, in sense 'affected, whimsy'.
So the last meaning is kind of close, but still means DOOM AND GLOOM. Not sexy and pretty and ethereal and a lot of other words your handy thesaurus will supply you with.
And even http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fey says:
Main Entry: fey
1 a chiefly Scottish : fated to die : DOOMED b : marked by a foreboding of death or calamity
2 a : able to see into the future : VISIONARY b : marked by an otherworldly air or attitude c : CRAZY, TOUCHED
3 a : PRECIOUS 3 b : UNCONVENTIONAL, CAMPY
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"Have you ever gone fishing?" Viggo asked.
"I have done," Orli answered.
DONE is never used in this way in English. I am totally blown the heck away by all of you who speak and write in English when it's not your native tongue. This, however, is totally incorrect. I have never in my life read or heard this construction except in fanfiction.
If it's British, I will happily (oh, -so- happily *g*) take my 40 lashes as punishment. But I have never heard it and it's Wrong Wrong Wrong for American characters. (Please, feel free to argue with me... Maybe they say it in rural Alabama.)
Peeve #2 --
"He stood there in his Legolas costume, looking fey and inhumanly beautiful."
"He was in a fey mood."
"fey" does NOT mean dark or mysterious.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines "fey" as:
1. Fated to die, doomed to death; also, at the point of death; dying. And further notes that this use is archaic, but still in use in Scotland.
2. Leading to or presaging death; deadly, fatal. Obsolete.
3. Accursed, unfortunate, unlucky. Obsolete.
4. Feeble, timid; sickly, weak. Obsolete.
5. Disordered in mind like one about to die; possessing or displaying magical, fairylike, or unearthly qualities. Now freq. used ironically, in sense 'affected, whimsy'.
So the last meaning is kind of close, but still means DOOM AND GLOOM. Not sexy and pretty and ethereal and a lot of other words your handy thesaurus will supply you with.
And even http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=fey says:
Main Entry: fey
1 a chiefly Scottish : fated to die : DOOMED b : marked by a foreboding of death or calamity
2 a : able to see into the future : VISIONARY b : marked by an otherworldly air or attitude c : CRAZY, TOUCHED
3 a : PRECIOUS 3 b : UNCONVENTIONAL, CAMPY
This has been a public service announcement.
Thank you for your time.