that I Write Like meme thing
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icarusancalion and mecurtin:
Jim McDonald did some digging into that "I Write Like" meme, and what he found isn't pretty.
(c/p from his article)
So I went to the I Write Like site, subject of the post just below, and entered this text:
asdp0o pvpm eropms spe pebps.
And it told me I write like James Joyce.
Not even trying? Not even rational! Therefore, I asked myself, what’s the scam? So I looked at the rest of the text on the results page:
Great job! Do you want to get your book published?
“I have personally read through thousands of book proposals in my career as a publisher and agent. I know what these professionals are looking for—and what they are not looking for.”
— Michael Hyatt, Chairman and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers.
Learn how to secure a book publishing contract!
That little bit includes two links, both to the same page: http://michaelhyatt.com/products/ebook-writing-a-winning-book-proposal
Yep, it’s SEO. And they’re using social engineering to get those links wide-spread and high in the Google stats. Helpful little cut-n-paste code to put in your blog!
But wait! There’s more!
Go over to that advertised page, and you’ll find a pair of $19.97 e-books by the above-said and afore-mentioned Michael Hyatt. These books promise to tell you such insider secrets as how to “avoid the three items you should NEVER include in a fiction book proposal.” Wow, I can’t wait to find out.
So, who’s Michael Hyatt, and what is Thomas Nelson?
Do you all recall Harlequin, and their recent dip in the vanity pool? Harlequin wasn’t the first or the only formerly-legitimate publisher to go down that road with Author Solutions. No, that honor goes to Thomas Nelson. But, since Thomas Nelson is a “Christian Publisher,” no one noticed at the time. Indeed, Thomas Nelson’s journey to the dark side is even sleazier than Harlequin’s. While Harlequin created a new imprint, “Harlequin Horizons,” as their vanity brand, Thomas Nelson used the name of an existing and formerly legitimate imprint, WestBow, for theirs. Thus, anyone checking up on the publisher’s name before submitting would find a long history of reasonably-selling books by known authors.
This “I Write Like” site isn’t remotely legitimate. No, they aren’t trying; or, anyway, they aren’t trying to analyze writing samples: They’re trying to lure newbie authors to the rocks and shoals of vanity publication.
icarusancalion adds:
I will also note that there's a "sign up for our awesome newsletter!" box on the side, which says that by doing so you can download FREE a "classic" book on writing by Charles Raymond Barrett -- a book which is, it *doesn't* tell you, also available at Project Gutenberg because it's from 1898.
I *strongly* recommend removing any links and code from "I Write Like" that may be in your posts.
Boost the signal.
Now, I have nothing againt "vanity" publishing - that's how I published my Wanton Hussy book. But I don't like being misled. Furthermore, it sucks that this amusing little idea for seeing what famous author your style most echoes was totally just a random result. It explains why so many of us got wacky results, but still - REAL results would have been interesting!
icarusancalion and mecurtin:Jim McDonald did some digging into that "I Write Like" meme, and what he found isn't pretty.
(c/p from his article)
So I went to the I Write Like site, subject of the post just below, and entered this text:
asdp0o pvpm eropms spe pebps.
And it told me I write like James Joyce.
Not even trying? Not even rational! Therefore, I asked myself, what’s the scam? So I looked at the rest of the text on the results page:
Great job! Do you want to get your book published?
“I have personally read through thousands of book proposals in my career as a publisher and agent. I know what these professionals are looking for—and what they are not looking for.”
— Michael Hyatt, Chairman and CEO of Thomas Nelson Publishers.
Learn how to secure a book publishing contract!
That little bit includes two links, both to the same page: http://michaelhyatt.com/products/ebook-writing-a-winning-book-proposal
Yep, it’s SEO. And they’re using social engineering to get those links wide-spread and high in the Google stats. Helpful little cut-n-paste code to put in your blog!
But wait! There’s more!
Go over to that advertised page, and you’ll find a pair of $19.97 e-books by the above-said and afore-mentioned Michael Hyatt. These books promise to tell you such insider secrets as how to “avoid the three items you should NEVER include in a fiction book proposal.” Wow, I can’t wait to find out.
So, who’s Michael Hyatt, and what is Thomas Nelson?
Do you all recall Harlequin, and their recent dip in the vanity pool? Harlequin wasn’t the first or the only formerly-legitimate publisher to go down that road with Author Solutions. No, that honor goes to Thomas Nelson. But, since Thomas Nelson is a “Christian Publisher,” no one noticed at the time. Indeed, Thomas Nelson’s journey to the dark side is even sleazier than Harlequin’s. While Harlequin created a new imprint, “Harlequin Horizons,” as their vanity brand, Thomas Nelson used the name of an existing and formerly legitimate imprint, WestBow, for theirs. Thus, anyone checking up on the publisher’s name before submitting would find a long history of reasonably-selling books by known authors.
This “I Write Like” site isn’t remotely legitimate. No, they aren’t trying; or, anyway, they aren’t trying to analyze writing samples: They’re trying to lure newbie authors to the rocks and shoals of vanity publication.
icarusancalion adds:I will also note that there's a "sign up for our awesome newsletter!" box on the side, which says that by doing so you can download FREE a "classic" book on writing by Charles Raymond Barrett -- a book which is, it *doesn't* tell you, also available at Project Gutenberg because it's from 1898.
I *strongly* recommend removing any links and code from "I Write Like" that may be in your posts.
Boost the signal.
Now, I have nothing againt "vanity" publishing - that's how I published my Wanton Hussy book. But I don't like being misled. Furthermore, it sucks that this amusing little idea for seeing what famous author your style most echoes was totally just a random result. It explains why so many of us got wacky results, but still - REAL results would have been interesting!
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Date: 2010-07-17 06:28 pm (UTC)Ah the human brain. So nonsensical. ;)
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Date: 2010-07-17 06:38 pm (UTC)i got Douglas Adams myself and i dont think he ever wrote slash
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Date: 2010-07-17 07:22 pm (UTC)Oh well, better go delete that post.
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Date: 2010-07-17 07:31 pm (UTC)http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100716/ap_on_en_ot/us_web_i_write_like
on how it works. It's set up by a Russian software engineer, not a vanity publisher.
ETA: And if I'd set something like that I'd definitely be offering advertising to vanity publishers- it would certainly be the most obvious income generator.
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